Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[angelsky]

Not very happy to find out today, that on October 22cd, the PTP was changed to only pay for Tier 1 and 2 hits with NO notice given.  Was changed and admin sent to tell it was changed.

Not sure about some, but I don't log into every site I am a member of each and every day, and find myself very unhappy with this.

Went from 80% valid hits to 40% now grrrrr

[Esperanza]

I think I won a bet that Carole's promise of 'no changes' would be broken this month already...

[Triskell]

Went from 80% valid hits to 40% now grrrrr

... and if you targeted these ads, that wouldn't help you a whole lot, either , as on top of everything else Carole's sites seem to be Geo-IP challenged, too. I'm getting around 50% valids (the other half being credit default hits) from eg. LavenderNLace or Old Amsterdam, which are Tier 1/2 sites.

I guess I will just stop advertising Cathouse and Galaxy and switch to the "click the minimum requirement - use my upgrade ads" mode till my upgrades expire (December 2010 and December 2011 respectively), that is assuming these excellently managed sites are still going to be around then. Targeting to T1/2 for a $0.55 CPM ptp wouldn't be worth the bother even without the obvious Geo-IP issue.

[taxlady]

Yes there was a geo ip problem.
All sites were updated today.
One site was never updated, another last update Janurary of 2008..........
I have all of them updated today with the current data base.

I appologize as i was busy with excessive bandwidth charge of $160 extra for Sept, and JV and Galaxy exceeding in October.
Been working very hard blocking the ip's from non-members using 6gigs of bandwidth (2 people) and a lot of other ip's coming in with 1/2gig to 1 gig.......

I discovered this problem today when a member inquired about his valids and invalids, coming from a site he had targetted his ads for.
I did the research, and checked every ip was a tier1 and tier2, that made me look at the data base, and it was way way outdated.

All results should be better now on all 4 sites with ptp.

howlin doesn't have ptp but i updated the data base anyway.

This was a legitimate issue, but now resolved.  I was not aware of the situation.

Carole

[wagdoll]

Edited

[taxlady]

Thanks for the suggestion. Rita had read your suggestion and removed the graphic.
Every little bit will help.
Thanks again
Carole

[Esperanza]

You might also check if your robots.txt file needs adjusting.

[wisdom]

It's a bad idea to delete all tier3 and tier4 account without any reason and unannounced. On http://cathousemails.com/pages/hall_of_shame.php I don't see my user name and  reasons of deleting accounts.
But I can't login to my aacount.  Why?
I don't promote any links.
And more. I known any peoples who lose account not only cathousemails.com but on galaxymails.
it's meanness from admin of those sites.

[iamannoyed]

You have reached this page for one of the following reasons. If the link you clicked was a paid mail link, most likely the link received the clicks paid for, and has been deleted from the system. If you clicked a link on your member menu, and got here, it's because the url in the menu was typed wrong. Please contact me and let me know which link you clicked to reach this page. your old admin used to send you to her Search Engine portal JDseek when you hit a bad or mistyped url. All this page is telling you , is that the url or paid mail no longer exists. Url's for pages are case sensative so if it's looking for a page called withdraw.php and the url in the menu points to Withdraw.php you will get this error page. If the paid mail doesn't exist anymore, you will land on this page. This happens when you aren't that active and are clicking old mails which require just 100 clicks or so. Just move on to the next mail. The one you clicked to reach here, will not be re-sent the next day.

reached that clicking a link from Poker PTR for cathouse mails splash. If the sale has ended-- instead of  (IMO) a rather snotty and inappropriate message making inaccurate comments about inactive members--Carole could change out her ad at Poker PTR or just make it go to the front page.

[Belle]

I think I won a bet that Carole's promise of 'no changes' would be broken this month already...

A month?

I think you won it the day after you made it.

I think Carole likes to make these changes without letting anyone know in the hopes they wont notice.

What she doesnt realize is even if they dont notice right away...they will notice eventually and the sneakiness will lose her more members and in turn more money than she could ever hope to gain.

I could understand an adjustment time and if she were even honest enough to say thats what was going on but instead she blames the members.

pfft.

[bell]

It's a bad idea to delete all tier3 and tier4 account without any reason and unannounced. On http://cathousemails.com/pages/hall_of_shame.php I don't see my user name and  reasons of deleting accounts.
But I can't login to my aacount.  Why?
I don't promote any links.
And more. I known any peoples who lose account not only cathousemails.com but on galaxymails.
it's meanness from admin of those sites.

Carole!

I'm a member of this site from 2006.
Today  I also can't login to my account.
  First thought  - it's some problem with database becouse change design.
Now I understand - Carol just deleted all accounts of members from 3/4 tiers!

 It was more of 340 members only yesterday.
Now:
Total Affiliates      254
Active Affiliates     250

How many members you deleted without paying?
You know - most of them have not PayPal!

I have and you can pay me. But what with others?

What I lost except few cents in my account balance?
Almost 1000 ptp credits?
 1800  points -few target emals or clicks?

Many referrals, also from 1/2 tiers?
No... not only...
   
Site, which I love and want to work there.
This site deserves to have good members and proper administration.
   
You asked me - if I want to leave this site?
  And the others?

Yes, this is a bad practice recently!

Shifting responsibility and own problems on the members, especially  from the 3 / 4 tiers.

I appologize as i was busy with excessive bandwidth charge of $160 extra for Sept, and JV and Galaxy exceeding in October.
Been working very hard blocking the ip's from non-members using 6gigs of bandwidth (2 people) and a lot of other ip's coming in with 1/2gig to 1 gig.......

Carole!

 If you're having bandwidth issues - look for a solution.
Many sites  live and work with members from 3/4 tiers and with  traffic from China and other not search countries. Are you think that members from search countries  buy ads for tiers 1/2 only when PTP 0.55?
But if you have even PTP $0.80 - you don't got traffic from non search countries?

In other words, you can get rid of the members  from  3/4 tiers but not from the traffic from those countries.You can't know who will click your PTP link!

Yes there was a geo ip problem.
All sites were updated today.
One site was never updated, another last update Janurary of 2008..........
I have all of them updated today with the current data base.

It  not true that the  ip database is not updated.
Darlene updated the database recently.
She also had problems!
See topics in this forum!

[iamannoyed]

If for whatever reason a PO feels they MUST get rid of tier 3/tier 4 members for gods sake do it the right way.  Pay them if you can, allow them to redeem their earnings if you can't pay them, and only after they are PAID or allowed to redeem should their accounts be deleted.

And believe me this is how I did it when Myster-E-Mail went from all countries allowed to tier 1/tier 2 only.  It is the only HONEST way to do it.

Retroactively deleting members without paying them or without the option to redeem their earnings is not only unfair, it is extremely DISHONEST and falls under the umbrella of "creative debt control'

You would really think that Carole would have learned from the backlash when she did this at Reliable. 

But I guess she thinks making the same intelligence-challenged knee jerk poorly thought out and totally uncommunicated decisions over and over and over again for literally YEARS (since she owned and ran MEC and Copper Coins) is a way to get the desired results. 

I guess she's right, if the desired result is ticking off long-term members from ALL countries not just the tier 3/tier 4 members.

[iamannoyed]

It's a bad idea to delete all tier3 and tier4 account without any reason and unannounced. On http://cathousemails.com/pages/hall_of_shame.php I don't see my user name and  reasons of deleting accounts.
But I can't login to my aacount.  Why?
I don't promote any links.
And more. I known any peoples who lose account not only cathousemails.com but on galaxymails.
it's meanness from admin of those sites.

Carole is yet another PO that thinks INACTIVITY is a reason to be in the hall of shame.  Inactivity is NOT cheating. Being deleted for inactivity is totally different than being deleted for clicking cheat links. Comparing deletions for inactivity to deletions for clicking cheat links is disgusting, and the only person who needs to be totally and completely ASHAMED of herself is Carole. 

[wagdoll]

Edited

[php25]

I asked Carole: "My account has been suspended! Why?" and recieve answer

I did send an admin message about it.
I have been hit with very excessive bandwidth usage from tier3 and tier4 countries which i can not afford to pay.
Therefore i've decided to make my sites strictly tier1 and tier2 sites with exception of any upgraded accounts or affiliate page owners.
Since you have neither, your account was cancelled.
If you have a balance of more than 35c you will be paid.
If not, paypal would eat up the 35c or less in fees.
I will not be making these payouts until approx november 15th as it's cost me a fortune in upgrading hosting to accomodate the excessive bandwidth costs.

I do not remember how much money I have in the account, nearly 2$ with PTP credits.
I cant use paypal, because I live in Ukraine!
I'm using alertpay and demand payment of all my money from the account, as well as points converted into cash.
Admin have the right to delete anyone, but had to give time for the withdrawal of money or redeem them!
And surely admin should have warned us in advance, before deleting.