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[Triskell]

Some people have nothing better to do, than make themselves look foolish.

Now isn't that true.

[taxlady]

Carole, I think the saddest thing about you is that you apparently believe your own lies and I can't even be bothered to point them all out because it's just too much work. Perhaps we should consider a contest: who can prove the most lies in your story - just this one, we do need to limit things - gets a cash reward. I'm sure that many of the people whom you scammed over the years would be more than willing to make a small donation for that prize just for the entertainment value.

So "we" are supposedly afraid for your competition? You have a rotten reputation, you are notorious for ripping off your members and your admin rants make you the laughing stock of the industry. You are no competition to "us", you're not even in the same league as many of the newer program owners. What you are is delusional and in need of help.
This industry is in a deep deep crisis, and it is increasingly difficult to keep our sites sustainable. So it is quite amazing that you, who like so much to present yourself as a very experienced program owner because you've been around for so many years, are totally incapable to run a sustainable site while several of us who became program owners much later can.
You are what I call 'a fair weather PO'; you can only manage in good times but you lack the knowledge and skills to deal with bad times. No, you are no competition to us at all.

As for your sneer towards me (such a coward you are, you don't even dare to call me by name):
I may not do the daily chores at my sites anymore (unless my admins are ill or on holiday) but I do keep a close eye on what is going on and I also do the troubleshooting - though there is very little trouble to shoot at, because MY sites are well maintained.
The time I save by employing admins I spend on finding and generating third party income for the sites. No one has ever heard ME whine about paying out of pocket. See, that's the difference between you and I, while you whine I pull up my sleeves and start working on generating income for the sites.

I suggest you wipe the egg off your face and re-read the admin message sent at eqoo2 regarding you revamping t3 and t4.
The only difference is that you have had the time to alert the members from those tiers about your changes. 
But in essence you're telling them they are not worth much to you or the site.
It was posted at beenpaid for all to see.

No Espy, rather than run your own sites, you choose to sit here, and comment on other's posts.
It doesn't take that much time to find affiliate sites and once the ads are set up, no time at all since everything is automatic.
So who do you think you're fooling.

The proof is in the pudding as they say.
you accuse me of not paying, you accuse me of creative site debt.
If paying my members is considered reducing the debt (which it is) then I'm guilty.

I've come up #1 for payment notices at ptrinfo for January.
I did not make those posts. Members did, Members who were paid. And we know that not all members will take the time to post payout notices.  So i get accused of paying my members to post???
I'm not saying you made the accusations, but you have definately accused me of such things.
As for not having the $$$'s to pay my members?? When did i say that.  I did say i wouldn't be making daily payouts within 24 hours of request, but my members will be paid and within terms.
No unlike you, i didn't mention your name. If the shoe fits wear it!!!
I'm not battling this out anymore, it's a waste of my time.
Those members that are happy with me, will stay, those who aren't will be gone when their upgrades and affiliate pages run out.
I'll be here taking care of my sites,, and paying members who deserve to be paid. Period, End of Discussion for me.
I don't have to prove anything to you all, My members know the truth, and they are the one's who's judgement matters, not yours.

Consider this notice...To those of you who continually bash me, when your affiliate pg and upgrades run out, you will be paid your full balance and be gone.  After converting any ptp credits to cash and also converting points to the site point exchange.

There's no reason i have to do business with people who have nothing to do but complain.
You're gonna talk about me anyway, might as well give you something to talk about!
I'm not putting up with it anymore.
I'll leave them in the system till their pages and upgrades run out, and then I'm done doing business with them.

[tsukitenshi]

Please address the concerns that people posted in this thread. Don't pick and choose what to respond to. Responding to Espy's more abstract account of concerns regarding you and your sites and ignoring the concrete instances we bring up makes it look like you have no defense for them and are trying to hide that by taking umbrage at other remarks and leaving.


eta: read that response to Espy more thoroughly.

As for not having the $$$'s to pay my members??

Hang on, I'll go get it.

ETA2: got it, but... I just reread Espy's post... she didn't make that accusation.

...are you making false accusations against yourself to prove you're a good PO? 

Anyway, the quote:

...one i had to make or the sites would have been gone due to non-payment of hosting or if  i paid the hosting, would not have been able to pay members for months

[Triskell]

But but but.... Tsukitenshi, who do you want your questions to be replied by? Certainly not Carole, because:

I stopped battling in forums months ago, it's a waste of time

Must be a grandson, a hamster or a possessed computer that is posting as Carole in this thread, obviously.

[tsukitenshi]

But but but.... Tsukitenshi, who do you want your questions to be replied by? Certainly not Carole, because:

I stopped battling in forums months ago, it's a waste of time

Must be a grandson, a hamster or a possessed computer that is posting as Carole in this thread, obviously.

To Carole's quote in there, I would say: well good! Don't battle! Just answer questions, address the issues.

Except in this thread she chose the battle instead of the issues.

Or, you know... the hamster/grandson/possessed computer did. But then said imposters were also the ones who said they weren't going to battle, so either way...

[taxlady]

Let me make something very clear to all of you.
I am not here to do battle, a member of mine didn't get the admin message for whatever reason. I posted it.
That was what i came to do.

As for any questions asked here, I answer members support mail daily.
If you're not a member, then my admin doesn't concern you and doesn't need to be addressed here or anywhere else but to my members.

I will respond to Taison publicly though since she is a member and attempted to post my replies to her even though that is not allowed.
When i did reply to Someone with replies she made to me, to prove my point, my post was edited by the admins as were Taison's.

So i will say this much.
Tami, by your own admission, Your rotator views did dissapear, I don't know why, It's possible not being familiar with the auto-ad manager, i may have intended on deleting the expired and didn't have it set on expired ads. Not sure what happend.
But by your own admission, when you showed me the ads that had run, i did put them back for you.
so instead of praising me for believing you and doing the right thing, you rip me apart with all sorts of accusations and call me a liar.
Grow up.  Just what i told you in one e-mail when you consistently were rude and obnoxious to me and accusatory.
Mistakes happen. I rectified the mistake. Should have been the end of it.

Other than that, i'm done in this thread, because if a member has any concerns they can e-mail me and will get a response .

My admin's concern my members, they are no concern to non-members, nor should i have to explain every action i do to anyone not a member of the sites.

I explain myself to my members as I feel they deserve an explanation.
So if you're a member, feel free to e-mail me and you'll get an answer.  If not, then it's none of your business, and i will not sit here and be your punching bag.
Have a nice day!
Carole

[tsukitenshi]

I never treated you as a punching bag, Carole. I even defended you on one occasion, not because I agree with how you deal with things, but because the comment really wasn't fair. You can therefore safely see me as a third party to this matter. Further, I do not go by public opinion. There was a thread here a month or two ago regarding a dispute between member and admin, and despite many people on this forum that I highly respect and also like personally took one side, I remained impartial or even towards the OTHER side.

As for your admins and what you do on the site not being the concern of anyone except members, that is true only if you are no longer accepting new members. I don't believe that is the case. You are promoting, your members are promoting, and the people you are trying to get to join the site deserve to know who they are going into business with and how they run that business.

As for the matter of rotator views.... what? There was nothing in this thread about that. How is that related? If you indeed restored the views, than I agree that further accusations seem-- from this limited information I have-- to be unnecessary, to say the least. I also believe that members who have a problem should not start off on a rude/accusatory stance. For example, a very good site was smeared not very long ago because of a simple mistake that caused some ads to change. Instead of politely inquiring, and recognizing the fact that POs are human and can make mistakes the same as anyone, they went right to the forums to STATE that the site was a bad one.

At the same time... this is concerning:

...instead of praising me for believing you and doing the right thing

Yes, if this situation went the way you say then do the opposite of praise was uncalled for... but praise for doing the right thing? This implies that doing the right thing is something exraordinary, that it wasn't normal. A "thank you"? Yes, okay. Praise? ....

[jarred]

At the same time... this is concerning:

...instead of praising me for believing you and doing the right thing

Yes, if this situation went the way you say then do the opposite of praise was uncalled for... but praise for doing the right thing? This implies that doing the right thing is something exraordinary, that it wasn't normal. A "thank you"? Yes, okay. Praise? ....

Agreed!

The PO had the responsibility of making sure that the ad goes out and expire when it should and not like the case u mentioned. When tat happened, the PO should replace the ad totally free of charge since it cannot be the fault of the member at all.

From yr story - it seem that you do not believe yr member on the matter of her ads and i highly doubt that if not for the proof that member show you - you would not have given her the ads back at all. Its naturally for that member to accuse/call you a liar since your reputation is rotten in this industry. You were proven in history that you cancelled all Tier 3/4 members accounts and deleting their ptp earnings etc and there is no way for us to know whether did u really pay them as you said you would.

From the start - you should not have included an important admin message on an email but rather should break it into several parts for the members to read since you shouldn't expect members to visit yr sites daily at all.

And of you complaining of the other forum members who are members of yr site that they do not support you/accuse you, you got the option of returning their upgrades/affiliate pages to them by paying them off and giving them a month advance notice but did you? Nope,u didn't - and why not,answer us that.

[gardengirl]

I suggest you wipe the egg off your face and re-read the admin message sent at eqoo2 regarding you revamping t3 and t4.
The only difference is that you have had the time to alert the members from those tiers about your changes. 
But in essence you're telling them they are not worth much to you or the site.
It was posted at beenpaid for all to see.

Could you please copy the link, I would like to read the message as I wasn't aware of a revamp.

Thank You,
Claudi

[iamannoyed]

There's been no revamp. While it may be under review for the future, there has been NO admin message sent out on this topic. 

The one admin that might have briefly touched on this was sent out over 6 weeks ago (right around Christmas 2009), and I am very sure that Patricia Taylor would really appreciate being informed that Carole is using Been Paid in her little vendetta against E-qoo/Esperanza/myself. 

Carole deleted herself from E-qoo 3 1/2 months ago so she has NO direct access to any admin messages sent out by E-qoo and  Been Paid is the ONLY person, place or thing allowed to post administrative messages from E-qoo.

Either Carole has confused a message sent out by another site with one sent by E-qoo or she's deliberating posting LIES to try to get revenge for the banning of all of her sites by E-qoo.

Either way, she's WRONG.  In the best case scenario, she's just confused.  In the worst case scenario, she's deliberately lying

[lurksalot]

Let me make something very clear to all of you.
I am not here to do battle, a member of mine didn't get the admin message for whatever reason. I posted it.
That was what i came to do.

As for any questions asked here, I answer members support mail daily.
If you're not a member, then my admin doesn't concern you and doesn't need to be addressed here or anywhere else but to my members.

I will respond to Taison publicly though since she is a member and attempted to post my replies to her even though that is not allowed.
When i did reply to Someone with replies she made to me, to prove my point, my post was edited by the admins as were Taison's.

So i will say this much.
Tami, by your own admission, Your rotator views did dissapear, I don't know why, It's possible not being familiar with the auto-ad manager, i may have intended on deleting the expired and didn't have it set on expired ads. Not sure what happend.
But by your own admission, when you showed me the ads that had run, i did put them back for you.
so instead of praising me for believing you and doing the right thing, you rip me apart with all sorts of accusations and call me a liar.
Grow up.  Just what i told you in one e-mail when you consistently were rude and obnoxious to me and accusatory.
Mistakes happen. I rectified the mistake. Should have been the end of it.

Other than that, i'm done in this thread, because if a member has any concerns they can e-mail me and will get a response .

My admin's concern my members, they are no concern to non-members, nor should i have to explain every action i do to anyone not a member of the sites.

I explain myself to my members as I feel they deserve an explanation.
So if you're a member, feel free to e-mail me and you'll get an answer.  If not, then it's none of your business, and i will not sit here and be your punching bag.
Have a nice day!
Carole

  Since when are rotator views set up and/or deleted from the ad manager?  I thought they were set up in the ptp plugin. 

[iamannoyed]

Since when are rotator views set up and/or deleted from the ad manager?  I thought they were set up in the ptp plugin.

They aren't set up in the ad manager at least not at ANY site I've ever belonged to or adminned at.  They are set up and/or approved in the ptp plugin either by admins or owners, they are deleted and/or paused from the ptp plugin.

I guess there are just too many plugins for Carole to keep track of  or she thinks Tasjon is too intelligence challenged to know the difference anyway.

Another case of either CONFUSION (best case) or LYING (worst case).  I'd stop posting in this topic if I were Carole as not only is her face covered with eggs, I'd imagine her whole body is well on its way to being covered with eggs from the incorrect comments made by her in this topic alone.

[tsukitenshi]

I'd stop posting in this topic if I were Carole as not only is her face covered with eggs, I'd imagine her whole body is well on its way to being covered with eggs from the incorrect comments made by her in this topic alone.

Alright, you people need to STOP making these comments. I am SO hungry now, and my stove isn't working so I can't make eggs   


 

[Tasjon]

As for any questions asked here, I answer members support mail daily.


I will respond to Taison publicly though since she is a member and attempted to post my replies to her even though that is not allowed.
When i did reply to Someone with replies she made to me, to prove my point, my post was edited by the admins as were Taison's.

So i will say this much.
Tami, by your own admission, Your rotator views did dissapear, I don't know why, It's possible not being familiar with the auto-ad manager, i may have intended on deleting the expired and didn't have it set on expired ads. Not sure what happend.
But by your own admission, when you showed me the ads that had run, i did put them back for you.
so instead of praising me for believing you and doing the right thing, you rip me apart with all sorts of accusations and call me a liar.
Grow up.  Just what i told you in one e-mail when you consistently were rude and obnoxious to me and accusatory.
Mistakes happen. I rectified the mistake. Should have been the end of it.

Carol
I think you and I both know that the reason I made snapshots of my ads is cuz in your site Howling, you deleted an ad of mine in there and told me in an email that you thought it was a free ad I got from Darlene and with that, you could not afford that .25 ad going out, I still have have that email from you as well!!

Yes you did put my ptp view ads back but you failed to mention that you was only willing to put them back unless I showed you my snapshots!
You failed to mention that you DID tell me that you suspended my ads so other members can get their ads seen!
You failed to mention that you then retracted and said you only suspended my ads for a few secs!
You failed to mention that I had a TONE as you put it ONLY WHEN I asked why on earth you was telling me several different things and WHICH ONE WAS IT REALLY!
You failed to reply to why you told me that my lifetime upgrades and one lifetime aff page would stay lifetime, then you want to say no now, even though you told me yourself 3 TIMES THEY WOULD SAY LIFETIME, I still have those emails as well!
So Carol you are a liar ,, so what kind of tone am I suppose to have?
I doubt very seriously you will respond to that or this.
You lied to me and you will not admit it, you got upset when I have several emails saying you did 3 different things to my ads and I questioned which one was it out of the 3 you was actually doing!

You can not keep track of what you tell your members, and when one or more tells you what you said you get all ticked off and blame it on that member!


I would suggest more members to take snapshots of their ads on Carol's sites!

[tsukitenshi]

Had a feeling I wasn't getting all the information