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iamannoyed

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Re: Anybody get the 'important email' from Joint Venture?
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2010, 01:04:43 AM »
Carole also deleted a PURCHASED ad of mine after she took over Cathouse.  Then she had the stone balls (wrong sex, but who cares) to say that she deleted it because it was expired. 

I purchased a 5,000 click ad from Darlene for Foloo, later changed to Americana after leaving Foloo.

To 'show good faith' when I contacted her about this issue she offered me an ad for 1000 clicks.  As I'd only received 2400 of the original PAID FOR 5000 clicks before she deleted my ad I still ended up being cheated out of quite a few of the clicks I paid for.

The really odd thing was that the ad was still being sent out on Hostigation's servers after she moved the sites to Go-Mama, I received it several times from the Hostigation servers before I left Cathouse. 

So I guess the ad wasn't expired after all, that was just another of Carole's lies. 
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 01:19:18 AM by iamannoyed »
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Re: Anybody get the 'important email' from Joint Venture?
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2010, 09:54:08 AM »
Carole, I think the saddest thing about you is that you apparently believe your own lies and I can't even be bothered to point them all out because it's just too much work. Perhaps we should consider a contest: who can prove the most lies in your story - just this one, we do need to limit things - gets a cash reward. I'm sure that many of the people whom you scammed over the years would be more than willing to make a small donation for that prize just for the entertainment value.

So "we" are supposedly afraid for your competition? You have a rotten reputation, you are notorious for ripping off your members and your admin rants make you the laughing stock of the industry. You are no competition to "us", you're not even in the same league as many of the newer program owners. What you are is delusional and in need of help.
This industry is in a deep deep crisis, and it is increasingly difficult to keep our sites sustainable. So it is quite amazing that you, who like so much to present yourself as a very experienced program owner because you've been around for so many years, are totally incapable to run a sustainable site while several of us who became program owners much later can.
You are what I call 'a fair weather PO'; you can only manage in good times but you lack the knowledge and skills to deal with bad times. No, you are no competition to us at all.

As for your sneer towards me (such a coward you are, you don't even dare to call me by name):
I may not do the daily chores at my sites anymore (unless my admins are ill or on holiday) but I do keep a close eye on what is going on and I also do the troubleshooting - though there is very little trouble to shoot at, because MY sites are well maintained.
The time I save by employing admins I spend on finding and generating third party income for the sites. No one has ever heard ME whine about paying out of pocket. See, that's the difference between you and I, while you whine I pull up my sleeves and start working on generating income for the sites.

I suggest you wipe the egg off your face and re-read the admin message sent at eqoo2 regarding you revamping t3 and t4.
The only difference is that you have had the time to alert the members from those tiers about your changes. 
But in essence you're telling them they are not worth much to you or the site.
It was posted at beenpaid for all to see.

No Espy, rather than run your own sites, you choose to sit here, and comment on other's posts.
It doesn't take that much time to find affiliate sites and once the ads are set up, no time at all since everything is automatic.
So who do you think you're fooling.

The proof is in the pudding as they say.
you accuse me of not paying, you accuse me of creative site debt.
If paying my members is considered reducing the debt (which it is) then I'm guilty.

I've come up #1 for payment notices at ptrinfo for January.
I did not make those posts. Members did, Members who were paid. And we know that not all members will take the time to post payout notices.  So i get accused of paying my members to post?????????
I'm not saying you made the accusations, but you have definately accused me of such things.
As for not having the $$$'s to pay my members????? When did i say that.  I did say i wouldn't be making daily payouts within 24 hours of request, but my members will be paid and within terms.
No unlike you, i didn't mention your name. If the shoe fits wear it!!!
I'm not battling this out anymore, it's a waste of my time.
Those members that are happy with me, will stay, those who aren't will be gone when their upgrades and affiliate pages run out.
I'll be here taking care of my sites,, and paying members who deserve to be paid. Period, End of Discussion for me.
I don't have to prove anything to you all, My members know the truth, and they are the one's who's judgement matters, not yours.

Consider this notice...To those of you who continually bash me, when your affiliate pg and upgrades run out, you will be paid your full balance and be gone.  After converting any ptp credits to cash and also converting points to the site point exchange.

There's no reason i have to do business with people who have nothing to do but complain.
You're gonna talk about me anyway, might as well give you something to talk about!
I'm not putting up with it anymore.
I'll leave them in the system till their pages and upgrades run out, and then I'm done doing business with them.

Once again you deliberately twist and turn what other people say to prove your feeble point.

The saying 'liar liar pants on fire' doesn't seem to affect you, are your pants made of asbestos?

You did NOT pay all your members. Quite a few of the tier 3 and 4 members whom you kicked out posted that they weren't paid a single cent. One poster can make a 'mistake' in this, two can too but if there are a lot who say the same and the program owner is notorious for having a quite personal concept of 'truth' then this is a clear sign.

As for being #1 at PTR Info... not so difficult if you send your members there through a paid link AND they know that kissing your butt will likely get them paid sooner is it?

E.t.a.

For those interested, this is what my admin message of  December 24 really said:
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As for E-Qoo2, the program is still sound but profit margins have become extremely small. So in the next weeks I will review several issues to keep the program sound in 2010.
Tiers crediting, especially for the lower tiers, will be reviewed. I'm sorry to say it but until lower tiers are able - as they can not always purchase or join - and willing to support our advertisers, the current crediting of tier 3 and 4 hits is simply not cost effective. There may also be some changes in which country goes in which tier.
What also will change is the way I charge for upgrades that are bought through payment processors. Until now I covered processor fees myself but in the new year they will be added to the purchase price. The upgrades themselves will be reviewed too, for instance existing upgraded members will get the option to replace 1/4 cent ads with 1/10th cent ads.
At this time I'm not yet considering charging a fee on payouts to cover the 2% masspay fee.
There will also be some general program maintenance, so please be prepared for some pages being offline occasionally.
http://beenpaid.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19349

Nothing in there about my tier 3 and 4 members at EQ not being worth anything (mind you, we only have tier 3 and 4 promoters at  EQ who don't have access to emails or PTC's) just an announcement of a review of crediting for tier 3 and 4 hits. So once again a totally false representation of the facts.


Oh and what a wonderful touch, to announce that members who won't kiss your butt will be removed as soon as their upgrades and affiliate pages expire.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2010, 10:13:09 AM by Esperanza »
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